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| 21:01.42 | ( @BlueFusion ) !topic Managing your gold, population distriubtion
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| 21:01.46 | ( @BlueFusion ) ok
| 21:01.54 | ( @BlueFusion ) Vortex6 is our first guest speaker
| 21:02.18 | ( @BlueFusion ) *drags Vortex6 onto the stage*
| 21:02.24 | ( +Vortex6 ) lol
| 21:02.26 | ( +Vortex6 ) greetings all
| 21:02.27 | .•• boramaf is now known as Boramaf
| 21:02.34 | ( +Vortex6 ) today we will be looking at several basic topics
| 21:02.38 | ( +Vortex6 ) the first would be
| 21:02.43 | ( +Vortex6 ) what are incomes and how do you get them
| 21:02.48 | .•• +m does not exist.
| 21:02.50 | ( +Vortex6 ) most players should know already
| 21:02.52 | ( +Vortex6 ) here we go
| 21:03.05 | ( +Vortex6 ) each citizen generates 4 pieces of golds per hour
| 21:03.16 | ( +Vortex6 ) these gold are needed
| 21:03.20 | ( +Vortex6 ) to support your military
| 21:03.26 | ( +Vortex6 ) you can use them to buy goods
| 21:03.33 | ( +Vortex6 ) and you can only use gold to buy cargo ships
| 21:03.45 | ( +Vortex6 ) even scientists require gold to stay in their lab
| 21:03.58 | ( +Vortex6 ) how you get it?
| 21:04.04 | ( +Vortex6 ) by having citizens
| 21:04.10 | ( +Vortex6 ) the more citizens you have
| 21:04.14 | ( +Vortex6 ) the more income you will get
| 21:04.26 | ( +Vortex6 ) you can know the income of an individual town by clicking it's town hall
| 21:04.39 | ( +Vortex6 ) to know the total income of your TOWNS
| 21:04.47 | ( +Vortex6 ) click the gold on your top left
| 21:04.59 | ( +Vortex6 ) please check them out on your own ikariam window
| 21:05.28 | ( +Vortex6 ) now the second topic
| 21:05.34 | ( +Vortex6 ) population distribution
| 21:05.39 | ( +Vortex6 ) oh no wait
| 21:05.40 | ( +Vortex6 ) sorry
| 21:05.46 | ( +Vortex6 ) how to put workers in mills and mines
| 21:06.00 | ( +Vortex6 ) now look at the top of your ikariam window
| 21:06.05 | ( +Vortex6 ) you should see different views
| 21:06.08 | ( +Vortex6 ) there are
| 21:06.16 | ( +Vortex6 ) world view, island view and town view
| 21:06.29 | ( +Vortex6 ) if you click your island view
| 21:06.40 | ( +Vortex6 ) you can know how many players are on your island
| 21:06.49 | ( +Vortex6 ) and how the exterior of your own town looks like
| 21:06.56 | ( +Vortex6 ) your own town would be the one that is blue
| 21:07.06 | ( +Vortex6 ) you can assign people to the sawmill by
| 21:07.13 | ( +Vortex6 ) clicking the forest on the island view
| 21:07.21 | ( +Vortex6 ) you will see a dragging bar
| 21:07.29 | ( +Vortex6 ) you can assign wood workers there
| 21:07.46 | ( +Vortex6 ) each level increase in your sawmill or mine
| 21:08.02 | ( +Vortex6 ) would increase the maximum amount of workers one player can put in side
| 21:08.20 | ( +Vortex6 ) without the effects of corruptiong
| 21:08.23 | ( +Vortex6 ) *corruption
| 21:08.29 | ( +Vortex6 ) each worker you put in to the sawmill
| 21:08.35 | ( +Vortex6 ) should generate 1 wood per hour
| 21:08.53 | ( +Vortex6 ) now on to mines
| 21:09.08 | ( +Vortex6 ) the same steps are required to put workers in to the mine
| 21:09.25 | ( +Vortex6 ) each of your island
| 21:09.34 | ( +Vortex6 ) will have one kind of luxury resource
| 21:09.40 | ( +Vortex6 ) out of the four that currently exists
| 21:09.42 | ( +Vortex6 ) which are
| 21:09.53 | ( +Vortex6 ) Sulphur, Marble, Wine, and Crystal
| 21:10.07 | ( +Vortex6 ) you will not be able to mine luxury resources
| 21:10.13 | ( +Vortex6 ) until you have the research "wealth"
| 21:10.19 | ( +Vortex6 ) in the economies section done
| 21:10.47 | ( +Vortex6 ) each island
| 21:10.53 | ( +Vortex6 ) will only have 1 kind of luxury resource
| 21:11.00 | ( +Vortex6 ) in order to have other kinds
| 21:11.15 | ( +Vortex6 ) you will have to reserach "expansion" in the sea faring section
| 21:11.23 | ( +Vortex6 ) build a palace so you can build a colony
| 21:11.39 | ( +Vortex6 ) or trade with your income, or using your own resource
| 21:12.00 | ( +Vortex6 ) when distributing workers in to the mills and mine
| 21:12.14 | ( +Vortex6 ) remember to balance it out with your town's income
| 21:12.23 | ( +Vortex6 ) try not to get negative incomes would be the best
| 21:12.38 | ( +Vortex6 ) you will not have to worry about negative incomes if you do not have a military
| 21:12.45 | ( +Vortex6 ) or any scientists assigned in to the academy
| 21:13.16 | ( +Vortex6 ) now here is a basic building sequence you can use when you first start the game
| 21:13.30 | ( +Vortex6 ) Standard Building Sequence
| 21:13.36 | ( +Vortex6 ) 1. Academy
| 21:13.41 | ( +Vortex6 ) 2. Assign 40 people to the mills
| 21:13.49 | ( +Vortex6 ) 3. After academy is done, leave 20 people and assign as many scientists as possible without having negative net gold
| 21:13.55 | ( +Vortex6 ) 4. Build a barrack
| 21:14.00 | ( +Vortex6 ) 5. Build a town wall
| 21:14.07 | ( +Vortex6 ) 6. Build a warehouse after research Conservation is done
| 21:14.15 | ( +Vortex6 ) 7. Build Trading port
| 21:14.19 | ( +Vortex6 ) 8. Buy cargo ships
| 21:14.24 | ( +Vortex6 ) 9. Upgrade town hall
| 21:14.39 | ( +Vortex6 ) i couldn't say this is the perfect starting sequence
| 21:14.47 | ( +Vortex6 ) but i tend to use this whenever i start a new account =)
| 21:15.03 | ( +Vortex6 ) these 9 steps should be able to be completed in an hour or 2
| 21:15.10 | ( +Vortex6 ) after you start playing
| 21:15.25 | ( +Vortex6 ) it is important
| 21:15.31 | ( +Vortex6 ) that you build the academy first
| 21:15.34 | ( +Vortex6 ) and while it is building
| 21:15.39 | ( +Vortex6 ) you assign people to the saw mill
| 21:15.45 | ( +Vortex6 ) after the construction is done
| 21:15.51 | ( +Vortex6 ) assign scientists in to the academy
| 21:15.58 | ( +Vortex6 ) but remember
| 21:16.03 | ( +Vortex6 ) scientists also cost upkeep
| 21:16.12 | ( +Vortex6 ) scientists cost 12 gold per hour
| 21:16.22 | ( +Vortex6 ) which would be 3 citizen's worth of income every hour
| 21:16.34 | ( +Vortex6 ) when you assign scientists in to the academy
| 21:16.48 | ( +Vortex6 ) remember to pull some people out of the sawmill so you balance your income and don't get a negative
| 21:17.00 | ( +Vortex6 ) now how do we assign scientists?
| 21:17.09 | ( +Vortex6 ) open your ikariam window and click your academy
| 21:17.15 | ( +Vortex6 ) again you will see a slider bar
| 21:17.26 | ( +Vortex6 ) like the ones you see in sawmills and mines
| 21:17.39 | ( +Vortex6 ) slide it towards your right hand side to add scientists in side
| 21:17.51 | ( +Vortex6 ) in order to put more scientists in to the academy
| 21:17.57 | ( +Vortex6 ) you have to uipgrade your academies
| 21:18.13 | ( +Vortex6 ) if you have more than one academy, and a larger total amount of scientists
| 21:18.19 | ( +Vortex6 ) your research will progress faster
| 21:18.33 | ( +Vortex6 ) after the 3rd or 4th level of your academy
| 21:18.43 | ( +Vortex6 ) it will require that you have crystals to continue upgrading
| 21:20.14 | ( +Vortex6 ) ok now other basic stuff
| 21:20.33 | ( +Vortex6 ) how do you know your coordinates?
| 21:20.45 | ( +Vortex6 ) if you click the world view
| 21:20.56 | ( +Vortex6 ) you can know your coordinates on your left hand side
| 21:21.07 | ( +Vortex6 ) you can also click options
| 21:21.10 | ( +Vortex6 ) scroll down
| 21:21.31 | ( +Vortex6 ) you will see whether to have your coordinates or type of resources producing beside your town name
| 21:21.35 | ( +Vortex6 ) on your top left
| 21:21.53 | ( +Vortex6 ) how do you know your total amount of population?
| 21:21.59 | ( +Vortex6 ) well like checking your income
| 21:22.03 | ( +Vortex6 ) simply click your town hall
| 21:22.16 | ( +Vortex6 ) in order to get more population for a larger income
| 21:22.22 | ( +Vortex6 ) you need to raise their satisfaction
| 21:22.27 | ( +Vortex6 ) you can do it by 3 ways
| 21:22.40 | ( +Vortex6 ) research such as utopia, and holiday
| 21:22.48 | ( +Vortex6 ) using taverns and wine
| 21:22.54 | ( +Vortex6 ) or by museums
| 21:23.02 | ( +Vortex6 ) however it is to be noted
| 21:23.14 | ( +Vortex6 ) each level of the town hall can only hold a certain amount of population
| 21:23.20 | ( +Vortex6 ) in order to have a larger population,
| 21:23.29 | ( +Vortex6 ) you would need to expand your town hall again
| 21:23.36 | ( +Vortex6 ) for every new citizen you gain
| 21:23.45 | ( +Vortex6 ) that town's satisfaction
| 21:23.51 | ( +Vortex6 ) is lowered by 1
| 21:23.56 | ( +Vortex6 ) for every 1 satisfaction you lose
| 21:24.02 | ( +Vortex6 ) you lose 0.02 growth rate
| 21:24.20 | ( +Vortex6 ) how do i change my town name?
| 21:24.56 | ( +Vortex6 ) click your town hall, on the left hand side there will be "change name" in gray letters
| 21:25.13 | ( +Vortex6 ) now as stated above
| 21:25.16 | ( +Vortex6 ) incomes can be used
| 21:25.19 | ( +Vortex6 ) to purchase goods
| 21:25.23 | ( +Vortex6 ) or buy cargo ships
| 21:25.30 | ( +Vortex6 ) now how do i buy cargo ships ?.?
| 21:25.34 | ( +Vortex6 ) you
| 21:25.37 | ( +Vortex6 ) have to build
| 21:25.40 | ( +Vortex6 ) a trading port
| 21:25.51 | ( +Vortex6 ) click a blue flag on your ikariam window to build one
| 21:25.57 | ( +Vortex6 ) after building it
| 21:26.07 | ( +Vortex6 ) you can buy cargo ships only with gold
| 21:26.21 | ( +Vortex6 ) the price of cargo ships are in exponential increase
| 21:26.27 | ( +Vortex6 ) every time you buy a new cargo ship
| 21:26.34 | ( +Vortex6 ) the next ship will be more expensive
| 21:26.38 | ( +Vortex6 ) but hey, that's good
| 21:26.50 | ( +Vortex6 ) for every 400 gold you spend on a cargo ship
| 21:26.56 | ( +Vortex6 ) you earn 1 point in your highscore
| 21:27.09 | ( +Vortex6 ) buying cargo ships is one of the fastest ways to earn points in Ikariam
| 21:27.23 | ( +Vortex6 ) now regarding resources
| 21:27.29 | ( +Vortex6 ) how do you keep more resources?
| 21:27.37 | ( +Vortex6 ) you need to finish the research "conservation"
| 21:27.43 | ( +Vortex6 ) in order to build a warehouse
| 21:27.47 | ( +Vortex6 ) by upgrading the warehouse
| 21:27.53 | ( +Vortex6 ) you will be allowed to store more resources
| 21:28.12 | ( +Vortex6 ) ok so how do i know my highscore?
| 21:28.20 | ( +Vortex6 ) on top of your ikariam window
| 21:28.28 | ( +Vortex6 ) you should see "High Score" in gray letters
| 21:28.33 | ( +Vortex6 ) click that to know your own high score
| 21:28.35 | ( +Vortex6 ) as well as others
| 21:28.57 | ( +Vortex6 ) you can click the "Alliance High Score" on your left hand side to know alliance rankings and total scores as well
| 21:28.59 | ( +Vortex6 ) =)
| 21:29.50 | ( +Vortex6 ) any questions?
| 21:30.05 | ( +Vortex6 ) ?.?
| 21:30.24 | ( Tina1170 ) now i know how but how will i know when
| 21:30.33 | ( Tina1170 ) i meand
| 21:30.45 | ( +Vortex6 ) how do you know when? what do you mean?
| 21:30.57 | ( Tina1170 ) when shall i upgrade buildings
| 21:31.09 | ( Tina1170 ) how much shall i pay for ressources
| 21:31.17 | ( +Vortex6 ) totally depends on your needs at that time
| 21:31.20 | ( +Vortex6 ) oh ok
| 21:31.30 | ( +Vortex6 ) i think the next person will be talking about the markets
| 21:31.45 | ( +Vortex6 ) if your town hall
| 21:31.48 | ( +Vortex6 ) is filled up
| 21:31.56 | ( +Vortex6 ) and you want more income and a high population
| 21:32.03 | ( +Vortex6 ) then you upgrade your town hall
| 21:32.11 | ( +Vortex6 ) if you have too much resource
| 21:32.20 | ( +Vortex6 ) you don't want to sell them because you are saving for an upgrade
| 21:32.23 | ( +Vortex6 ) upgrade your warehouse
| 21:32.37 | ( +Vortex6 ) when you are on a bigger research, you have all the scientists inside
| 21:32.41 | ( +Vortex6 ) and it's still going too slow
| 21:32.44 | ( +Vortex6 ) upgrade your academy
| 21:33.01 | ( +Vortex6 ) when you put maximum people in to your sawmill and mine and wants more
| 21:33.07 | ( +Vortex6 ) donate to the mills and mines
| 21:33.21 | ( +Vortex6 ) it is actually recommended to donate to mills and mines regularily
| 21:33.41 | ( Meldrew ) how regularly?
| 21:33.50 | ( Embia ) *raises hand*
| 21:33.55 | ( +Vortex6 ) normally
| 21:34.02 | ( +Vortex6 ) i donate whenever i have spare wood
| 21:34.17 | ( +Vortex6 ) it is recommended to have at least donated 1000 wood for every level of your town hall
| 21:34.23 | ( +Vortex6 ) in botht the mines and the sawmill
| 21:34.33 | ( +Vortex6 ) embai did you have something you wanted to ask??
| 21:34.43 | ( Tina1170 ) ? 1000 for each level ?
| 21:34.46 | ( +Vortex6 ) yup
| 21:34.49 | ( +Vortex6 ) 1000 for each level
| 21:34.56 | ( +Vortex6 ) but you don't have to donate that much in the beginning
| 21:35.01 | ( Embia ) yes, is the number of workers you can asign also dictated by the lvl of your townhall?
| 21:35.10 | ( +Vortex6 ) yes it is in a way
| 21:35.14 | ( +Vortex6 ) as for example
| 21:35.31 | ( +Vortex6 ) the meximum amount of workers you can put in a saw mill for a certain level is
| 21:35.34 | ( +Vortex6 ) 341 workers
| 21:35.42 | ( +Vortex6 ) but you only have 120 citizens
| 21:35.43 | ( +Vortex6 ) O_O
| 21:35.54 | ( +Vortex6 ) lol that's when you have to raise your town hall level
| 21:35.56 | ( +Vortex6 ) get more citizens
| 21:35.59 | ( +Vortex6 ) to put more workers in
| 21:36.10 | ( +Vortex6 ) as for tinall70's question
| 21:36.14 | ( +Vortex6 ) yes 100 for each level
| 21:36.20 | ( +Vortex6 ) *1000
| 21:36.24 | ( Tina1170 ) )
| 21:36.31 | ( +Vortex6 ) don't rush it in the beginning though
| 21:36.38 | ( +Vortex6 ) after you get like 3 towns or so
| 21:36.42 | ( +Vortex6 ) and when you have alot of wood
| 21:36.56 | ( +Vortex6 ) then donate 1000 for each level of your town hall
| 21:36.59 | ( +Vortex6 ) so for example
| 21:37.04 | ( +Vortex6 ) if you have a level 18 town hall
| 21:37.10 | ( +Vortex6 ) donate 18000 to the sawmill in total
| 21:37.16 | ( +Vortex6 ) and 18000 to the mine in total
| 21:37.21 | ( +Vortex6 ) that's the minimum
| 21:37.25 | ( +Vortex6 ) if you don't meet that
| 21:37.31 | ( +Vortex6 ) you get targeted for leaching
| 21:37.36 | ( +Vortex6 ) *leeching
| 21:37.45 | ( +Vortex6 ) some people's personal standard is higher
| 21:37.52 | ( +Vortex6 ) so it is recommended to donate a bit more =)
| 21:37.57 | ( +Vortex6 ) any more questions??
| 21:38.11 | ( Embia ) oh, guess better get donating more wood then
| 21:38.22 | ( Meldrew ) sorry lost connection a bit there
| 21:38.25 | ( +Vortex6 ) yea but don't rush donations in the beginning
| 21:38.40 | ( +Vortex6 ) it might slow down your development =)
| 21:39.32 | ( +Vortex6 ) if there are no more questions
| 21:39.39 | ( +Vortex6 ) maybe aeisharat
| 21:39.45 | ( +Vortex6 ) should speak now =)
| 21:40.07 | ( +Aeisharat|Zarroc| ) only if everyones fine with everything you've said!
| 21:40.28 | ( +Aeisharat|Zarroc| ) If there aren't anymore questions, I'll kick off the next bit
| 21:40.28 | ( +Vortex6 ) lol
| 21:40.36 | ( @BlueFusion ) Whats the first topic Aeisharat|Zarroc|?
| 21:40.37 | ( Embia ) What's a good growth rate?
| 21:40.38 | ( @BlueFusion ) I forgot
| 21:40.40 | ( @BlueFusion )
| 21:40.46 | ( +Vortex6 ) ok
| 21:40.48 | ( +Aeisharat|Zarroc| ) Trading your way to the top for beginners
| 21:40.49 | ( +Vortex6 ) a good growth rate
| 21:40.55 | ( +Vortex6 ) is recommended to be above 3.0 =)
| 21:41.11 | ( Embia ) oh? ok, thnx
| 21:41.21 | ( +Vortex6 ) sorry aeisharat
| 21:41.26 | ( +Vortex6 ) please continue
| 21:41.34 | ( +Aeisharat|Zarroc| ) its fine, we're five mins ahead of schedule anyway
| 21:41.55 | ( +kvangelo ) 1 sec
| 21:42.03 | ( +Aeisharat|Zarroc| ) kk
| 21:42.09 | ( +kvangelo ) Give a rond of applause to Vortex, our 1st teacher
| 21:42.17 | ( +Vortex6 ) lol thank you
| 21:42.27 | ( Embia ) *applauds Vortex*
| 21:42.30 | )) +Aeisharat|Zarroc| applauds vortex
| 21:42.30 | ( Meldrew ) cheers
| 21:42.35 | ( Tina1170 ) thx
| 21:43.04 | ( +Vortex6 ) thank you
| 21:43.16 | ( +Aeisharat|Zarroc| ) good advice there I think
| 21:44.01 | ( +Aeisharat|Zarroc| ) right then, I suppose I should start off my section of the tutorial!
| 21:44.28 | ( +Aeisharat|Zarroc| ) I'll actually start with the second part, as it leads into the first a bit better
| 21:44.45 | ( +Aeisharat|Zarroc| ) so here we go with Generating gold: The balancing game (for the balance between troops/workers)
| 21:45.29 | ( @BlueFusion ) !topic Generating gold: The balancing game (for the balance between troops/workers)
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| 21:45.35 | ( +Aeisharat|Zarroc| ) as Vortex has already mentioned, you have citizens, which can be placed in the mills and mines, in the academy or even recruited as soldiers.
| 21:46.27 | ( +Aeisharat|Zarroc| ) as soon as you build your Barracks, a place where troops are trained, you can train units called Slingers, which are very basic, and only need wood to build.
| 21:47.48 | ( +Aeisharat|Zarroc| ) by building these troops, you remove citizens from your population count, which is a handy way to keep them down until your town hall finishes upgrading!
| 21:49.09 | ( +Aeisharat|Zarroc| ) to find out what your current gold income is against your outgoing amounts (outgoing is things like upkeep for soldiers), simply click on the button with the gold icon
| 21:49.21 | ( +Aeisharat|Zarroc| ) you can find it in the top left corner, under the ship button
| 21:50.15 | ( +Aeisharat|Zarroc| ) click this, and you get a screen showing all your towns, the amount of money they make, and the amount of money they are using as upkeep.
| 21:51.11 | ( +Aeisharat|Zarroc| ) Under that is the Sigma sign (looks like a Zig Zag E shape. it's greek, and used to show 'total'), and here you see the total outgoings and income
| 21:51.34 | ( +Aeisharat|Zarroc| ) now, depending on your play style, which may still be changing at this point, there are two things you can do here
| 21:52.30 | ( +Aeisharat|Zarroc| ) If you plan on plenty of trading to raise your money, then the ideal net profit/loss for you is as close to 0 as possible, but preferably a positive number, such as 1-3
| 21:53.05 | ( +Aeisharat|Zarroc| ) for example, mine (as a player with ~60K points) is 3 gold every hour
| 21:53.39 | ( +Aeisharat|Zarroc| ) and if anyone has any questions, ask them now, I'm just nipping away for ten seconds, then ill come back and answer them (sorry, blue, nature calls)
| 21:54.08 | ( Embia ) How do you get your income to be so low?
| 21:54.36 | ( +Aeisharat|Zarroc| ) just getting to that bit! good question though
| 21:54.48 | ( Tina1170 ) how many slingers should i train and can i upgrade them too
| 21:54.55 | ( +Aeisharat|Zarroc| ) basically, every worker in a mill or mine will reduce that towns income by 4 gold every hour.
| 21:55.06 | ( +Aeisharat|Zarroc| ) every scientist will reduce it by 12 gold every hour
| 21:55.44 | ( +Aeisharat|Zarroc| ) if you look at what your total income is, and simply divide it by 4, thats how many potential workers you have
| 21:55.56 | ( +Aeisharat|Zarroc| ) simply remember three workers are one scientist
| 21:56.33 | ( +Aeisharat|Zarroc| ) using this trick will mean you should get plenty of resources and research completed with your citizens, while still gaining a little cash every hour
| 21:57.21 | ( +Aeisharat|Zarroc| ) @Tina1170 only train a few slingers, as if you look in your barracks, you will see they cost 8 gold every hour for upkeep.
| 21:57.48 | ( +Aeisharat|Zarroc| ) if you return for the next few training seesions, I believe there is one for combat basics and mechanics
| 21:58.24 | ( +Aeisharat|Zarroc| ) you should get some good tips on what troops then, from players who are much better at it than me
| 21:59.22 | ( +Aeisharat|Zarroc| ) remember that until you have researched Luxury goods in your academy, you can;t place workers in your wine/marble/crystal/sulphur mines
| 21:59.25 | ( +Aeisharat|Zarroc| ) only your woodmill
| 21:59.44 | ( +Aeisharat|Zarroc| ) afterwards though, you can use both
| 22:00.03 | ( +Aeisharat|Zarroc| ) everyone ok so far? any more questions on evening out your balance for optimum resource gain?
| 22:00.25 | ( Tina1170 ) if i need to buy luxury goods - what is a fair price to pay
| 22:00.46 | ( Tina1170 ) i know i will have to pay whatever they ask me to as i need them
| 22:01.01 | ( Tina1170 ) but i just want to know if its fair )
| 22:01.02 | ( +Aeisharat|Zarroc| ) thats probably a good time to switch to the next topic then, so if Blue would be so kind as to give us the orange bit saying Trading your way to the top for beginners
| 22:01.12 | ( +Aeisharat|Zarroc| ) we'll get right on trading
| 22:01.33 | ( +Aeisharat|Zarroc| ) while Blue does that, I'll start on trading
| 22:02.04 | ( +Vortex6 ) first
| 22:02.07 | ( +Vortex6 ) let us all thank
| 22:02.12 | ( @BlueFusion ) !topic Trading your way to the top for beginners
| 22:02.12 | .•• ChanServ changed the topic to [ Welcome to #ikariam.org-training - This Channel is for Training Sessions | Do you have a topic you wish to discuss? Contact a helper with your topic | Question and answer session will follow the training session - Current Discussion Topic: Trading your way to the top for beginners ]
| 22:02.14 | ( +Vortex6 ) aeisharat for his great analysis
| 22:02.29 | ( +Aeisharat|Zarroc| ) thanks Blue, and Vortex
| 22:02.37 | ( +Aeisharat|Zarroc| ) but we're not done yet!
| 22:02.47 | ( +Aeisharat|Zarroc| ) once you have built your trading post (which requires the 'Wealth' research), you can start to trade with others
| 22:03.15 | ( +Aeisharat|Zarroc| ) now this can be very confusing at first, but once you have got a little experience, you'll be using it like a pro in no time
| 22:04.17 | ( +Aeisharat|Zarroc| ) when you click your trading post, you will see a screen showing all the current offers for building material you can buy from
| 22:04.59 | ( +Aeisharat|Zarroc| ) there are various options: two buttons that decide whether you are buying (I am looking for) or selling (I offer)
| 22:05.08 | ( +Aeisharat|Zarroc| ) For now, if you can, click the I am looking for button
| 22:05.44 | ( +Aeisharat|Zarroc| ) next there is a drop down box, which lets you select which resource you wish to buy
| 22:06.17 | ( +Aeisharat|Zarroc| ) select Marble, and then click the button underneath that syas 'Find Bargains'
| 22:06.50 | ( +Aeisharat|Zarroc| ) under the option boxes, a list of current offers will show up on the screen
| 22:07.17 | ( +Aeisharat|Zarroc| ) they are shown with the cheapest price first
| 22:07.51 | ( +Aeisharat|Zarroc| ) now, the prices for each kind of resource vary from region to region, server to server, but the basic, work around prices are like this:
| 22:08.17 | ( +Aeisharat|Zarroc| ) Wood: sells for about 5-15 gold
| 22:08.54 | ( +Aeisharat|Zarroc| ) Marble: sells for about 30-50 gold each (although for some reason people will buy it at 99 gold each. If you see an offer buying at that much, SELL!)
| 22:09.18 | ( +Aeisharat|Zarroc| ) Crystal: Sells for about 20-30 gold each
| 22:09.29 | ( +Aeisharat|Zarroc| ) WIne tends to be the same as Crystal
| 22:10.06 | ( +Aeisharat|Zarroc| ) sulphur goes for about the same as wood, due it only being used for troops and Palace upgrades right now
| 22:10.46 | ( +Aeisharat|Zarroc| ) it's easy enough to sell. If you want to do it manually, simply check the box that says I offer, select the correct resource, and click the find bargain button
| 22:11.03 | ( +Aeisharat|Zarroc| ) you'll see what people are offering for that resource, displayed highest offer first.
| 22:11.46 | ( +Aeisharat|Zarroc| ) simply click the Trade icon next to the player you wish to sell to, and you can set how much will be sent, and away the goods go, in your cargo ships.
| 22:11.59 | ( Audiowaste ) only 1 problem, there are barely any offers
| 22:12.15 | ( +Aeisharat|Zarroc| ) ah, good point
| 22:12.34 | ( Audiowaste ) most of the offers are the goods you have on the island
| 22:12.48 | ( +Aeisharat|Zarroc| ) when you upgrade your trading post (which you should often, as long as it doesnt hinder other growth), for every two levels, you can trade in a radius one island larger
| 22:12.58 | ( Audiowaste ) already expected that answer
| 22:13.10 | ( +Aeisharat|Zarroc| ) eg: a level 12 trading post can trade up to 6 islands around
| 22:13.37 | ( Audiowaste ) only playing for 4/5 days, I was lucky I got some goods from someone else
| 22:13.43 | ( +Aeisharat|Zarroc| ) theres another way to sell, which doesn't require you sitting at your PC all day
| 22:14.01 | ( Audiowaste ) but to upgrade your trading post you need goods which you don't have
| 22:14.35 | ( Audiowaste ) only way I get goods is by pillaging inactive players
| 22:14.39 | ( +Aeisharat|Zarroc| ) thats mainly the problem if you don't start on a marble island. As soon as you can colonise, go to a marble island, but thats another tutorial
| 22:15.36 | ( +Aeisharat|Zarroc| ) it only requires 83 marble to be able to trade to two islands away, which SHOULD include a marble isle, so further upgrades are not a problem
| 22:15.58 | ( +Aeisharat|Zarroc| ) right, back to setting your offers
| 22:16.32 | ( +Aeisharat|Zarroc| ) in the table below where offers are shown, there are drop down boxes next to the reources, where you can say 'buy' or 'sell' for each
| 22:16.45 | ( +Aeisharat|Zarroc| ) in the next box, you set how much of the resource you offer
| 22:17.22 | ( +Aeisharat|Zarroc| ) and a note here is as soon as you set the amount, it is removed from toolbar showing you how much of that you have and your warehouse
| 22:17.38 | ( +Aeisharat|Zarroc| ) the third box is the amount you are selling/buying for
| 22:17.48 | ( +Aeisharat|Zarroc| ) lets say you want to sell 3000 sulphur
| 22:18.18 | ( +Aeisharat|Zarroc| ) you set the sulphur box to 'sell', put 3000 in the middle box, then set your price, lets say 15 each in the final box
| 22:19.07 | ( +Aeisharat|Zarroc| ) click 'Update offers', and the sulphur will be stored in your trading post, and people will see it when they search for offers for sulphur
| 22:19.54 | ( +Aeisharat|Zarroc| ) same for buying, only no resource is removed from your warehouse, but your gold is reserved for the purchase, and removed from your total.
| 22:20.23 | ( +Aeisharat|Zarroc| ) the amount you can store in your trading post is upped with every upgrade
| 22:20.50 | ( +Aeisharat|Zarroc| ) a good tip here, and one which may not be covered in the combat tutorial is this:
| 22:21.23 | ( +Aeisharat|Zarroc| ) if your are getting attacked, and want to save more resources than your warehouse will protect, first downgrade your trading port, then set your offers to sell at 99 each
| 22:21.59 | ( +Aeisharat|Zarroc| ) it wont be pillageable, and even if someone does buy it, you're quids in!
| 22:22.14 | ( Tina1170 ) )))
| 22:22.15 | ( +Aeisharat|Zarroc| ) just remember to take it off offer when the attack is over.
| 22:22.22 | ( +Aeisharat|Zarroc| ) and don't tell the mods I told you!
| 22:22.29 | )) +Aeisharat|Zarroc| looks around furtively
| 22:22.38 | ( +Aeisharat|Zarroc| ) hey Mor
| 22:22.52 | ( m0r1arty ) Hey there Zarroc!
| 22:22.53 | ( +Aeisharat|Zarroc| ) right, that sounds like evrything I can think of to tell you, any questions?
| 22:22.56 | ( Embai ) *wonders how much Aisharat is willing to pay for her silence*
| 22:22.59 | ( m0r1arty ) lol
| 22:23.18 | ( +Aeisharat|Zarroc| ) seriously, any questions?
| 22:23.20 | ( Tina1170 ) how many good should i keep for myself
| 22:23.24 | ( m0r1arty ) So erm...Are you guys going to do an update release prior to an IRC night again?
| 22:23.34 | ( @BlueFusion ) lol
| 22:23.40 | ( @BlueFusion ) I hope not >_<
| 22:23.43 | ( m0r1arty ) Me too!
| 22:23.43 | ( @BlueFusion ) and nice talk Aeisharat|Zarroc|
| 22:23.48 | ( m0r1arty ) lol, you did wellI must say
| 22:23.57 | ( +Aeisharat|Zarroc| ) basically, if you have something upgrading, and your amount is nearing the amount you can store, sell some
| 22:24.09 | ( +Aeisharat|Zarroc| ) OR, if you need cash for your cargo ships, sell your spare off then
| 22:24.21 | ( @BlueFusion ) !topic Question and Answer session on any topic you like
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| 22:24.24 | ( +Aeisharat|Zarroc| ) the golden rule is: Unless it hinders your growth, it's up for sale
| 22:25.19 | ( Tina1170 ) my english is not so good but i hope you will understand my next question
| 22:25.31 | ( m0r1arty ) Here's a question...Is it worth hording stuff in the hopes that the soft cap will be removed soon? Or should I try and upgrade all my GRs to level 6?
| 22:25.41 | ( +Aeisharat|Zarroc| ) yes Tina?
| 22:25.47 | ( m0r1arty ) And play nice Zarroc!
| 22:25.51 | ( Tina1170 ) what are the things that provocate others to attack me
| 22:26.09 | ( Tina1170 ) is there any way not to get attacked at all?
| 22:26.10 | ( +Aeisharat|Zarroc| ) usually, you are attacked because being new, you are seen as an easy target#
| 22:26.43 | ( +Aeisharat|Zarroc| ) the best way to not get attacked, and there are a few, is to get a few troops (5-10 slingers) and a few boats in your harbour, just a token defence
| 22:27.06 | ( m0r1arty ) I'd say keep a low port level and use as much of your resources as you can on upgrades. Also - give to your islands resources too TIna
| 22:27.07 | ( +Aeisharat|Zarroc| ) Join an Alliance also helps reduce you being a target
| 22:27.24 | ( +Aeisharat|Zarroc| ) Mors right too
| 22:27.47 | ( +Aeisharat|Zarroc| ) keep upgrading your spy hideout and training spies as well, they'll help detect people spying you out
| 22:27.50 | ( Embai ) Most alliances want you have min scores that us beginners don't have.
| 22:28.06 | ( Tina1170 ) well beeing new ... thats what i thought too .... so i upgraded my townhall to level 5 within 2 days of playing ... so no one will know how new i am (will this work?)
| 22:28.14 | ( +Aeisharat|Zarroc| ) Well, if you're on Iota, PM me on the name Zarroc, i'll sort you out an alliance
| 22:28.28 | ( +kvangelo ) There are small alliances that relate to big ones that take new players
| 22:28.42 | ( +kvangelo ) they will help you to grow
| 22:28.50 | ( m0r1arty ) There is nothing wrong with working your way up the alliances...just make sure you don't get a bad reputation from pillaging or griefing anyone too much
| 22:28.58 | ( +Aeisharat|Zarroc| ) everyone bear in mind, your town wall needs to equal your town hall level to give you a good defence bonus, that reduces you being target too
| 22:29.00 | ( +kvangelo ) same goes for epsilon
| 22:29.17 | ( Embai ) i'm from epsilon
| 22:29.33 | ( +Zarroc ) have a word with kvangelo then, he should help you!
| 22:29.50 | ( Embai ) kk, thnx
| 22:30.07 | ( +Zarroc ) if you're ever unsure, head to the boards and post in the help section, or if anyone in this channel is on world Iota, PM 'Zarroc'
| 22:30.15 | ( +Zarroc ) I'll give you a hand
| 22:30.48 | ( +Zarroc ) right, unless there are anymore questions, I'll leave it to Blue to sort the rest of the session (which I've run half and hour into!) out
| 22:31.03 | ( m0r1arty ) Thanks Zarroc
| 22:31.09 | ( Tina1170 ) thanks
| 22:31.13 | ( @BlueFusion ) Its not a problem Zarroc
| 22:31.21 | ( @BlueFusion ) thankyou both to you and Vortex6
| 22:31.22 | ( Audiowaste ) any player on Alpha who can help me?
| 22:31.39 | ( +Vortex6 ) lol sorry i only play on beta gamma my,
| 22:31.41 | ( @BlueFusion ) Audiowaste: #ikariam.org-alpha
| 22:31.48 | ( +Vortex6 ) started two accounts on lota and zta few days ago
| 22:31.50 | ( Audiowaste ) I'm already on that channel
| 22:31.54 | ( @BlueFusion ) lol k
| 22:31.57 | ( Audiowaste ) but nobody talks in there
| 22:33.20 | ( Embai ) Thank you Aeisharat for your lesson.
| 22:33.45 | ( +Vortex6 ) let us all thank bluefusion
| 22:33.48 | ( +Vortex6 ) for putting this up
| 22:33.49 | ( +Vortex6 ) =)
| 22:33.51 | ( +Zarroc ) no probs, I'm even open to PMs on the forum as well, but my name there is 'Aeisharat', as forum software doesnt like Zarroc
| 22:33.53 | ( +Vortex6 ) thank you blue!
| 22:33.55 | ( m0r1arty ) Here's a question BlueFusion, I've found the boards on .org to be quiet alienating to new and old players alike and have said as much - it's mainly due to locked threads, warnings to newbies and reiterated questions. Are there plans for basic training to alter this or is this to be expected for the near future (I'm hapy either way, I just want to know what the score is)
| 22:34.06 | ( +Zarroc ) aye, big round of applause to Blue!
| 22:34.14 | ( m0r1arty ) quiet = secretively
| 22:35.16 | )) +Zarroc applauds BlueFusion for setting all this up
| 22:35.25 | )) m0r1arty applauds also
| 22:35.45 | ( @BlueFusion ) Those issues are more for our board administrators, as they are ultimately responsible for the Moderators
| 22:35.55 | ( @BlueFusion ) SOLIDx is here
| 22:36.02 | ( @BlueFusion ) lets see if he's actually around
| 22:36.10 | )) @BlueFusion slaps SOLIDx around a bit with a large trout
| 22:36.15 | ( @SOLIDx ) yes I am here
| 22:36.19 | ( @SOLIDx ) m0r1arty
| 22:36.29 | ( m0r1arty ) Like I said I'm happy either way, I was just asking if it's worth my while adding to the boards as I know how frustrating it can be looking for info
| 22:36.29 | ( @SOLIDx ) can you show me what you mean by it?
| 22:36.32 | ( m0r1arty ) Hi Solid
| 22:36.54 | ( @SOLIDx ) or give me an example please
| 22:37.31 | ( m0r1arty ) If you read most of the things here: http://board.ikariam.org/index.php?page=Thread&threadID=35545
| 22:37.36 | ( m0r1arty ) You'll see some complaints
| 22:38.06 | ( Audiowaste ) I dislike forums/boards anyway to communicate with players
| 22:38.11 | ( m0r1arty ) There is also the whole ex-mod thing going on about corruption in the board section, it's just a bit, unfriendly I suppose
| 22:38.18 | ( m0r1arty ) I'm happy overall, just could be moreso I suppose
| 22:38.20 | ( +Vortex6 ) i have to go
| 22:38.21 | ( +Vortex6 ) sorry
| 22:38.23 | ( +Vortex6 ) byebye =)
| 22:38.25 | ( +Vortex6 ) thank you all
| 22:38.30 | ( +Vortex6 ) thank you kvangelo
| 22:38.32 | ( @SOLIDx ) thank you Vortex6
| 22:38.32 | ( @SOLIDx ) cya
| 22:38.34 | ( +Vortex6 ) thank you bluefusion
| 22:38.36 | ( @SOLIDx ) and m0r1arty
| 22:38.37 | ( +Vortex6 ) thank you solid
| 22:38.41 | ( +Vortex6 ) thank you aeishrat
| 22:38.41 | ( m0r1arty ) Cheers Vortex
| 22:38.46 | ( @SOLIDx ) I think we explained everything in that thread
| 22:38.47 | ( +Vortex6 ) thank you m0rlarty
| 22:38.52 | ( +Vortex6 ) thank you Embai
| 22:38.54 | ( @SOLIDx ) why some rules are there, why they are being enforced
| 22:38.55 | ( +Zarroc ) bye mate, good talk
| 22:38.56 | ( +Vortex6 ) thank you Meldrew
| 22:39.03 | ( +Vortex6 ) LOL
| 22:39.07 | ( +Vortex6 ) thank you all
| 22:39.08 | ( +Vortex6 ) anyways
| 22:39.09 | ( +Vortex6 ) byebye
| 22:39.15 | )) +Zarroc waves bye
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| 22:39.55 | ( @Lectronimo ) Bye Vortex ;
| 22:40.05 | ( @Lectronimo ) >_>
| 22:40.15 | ( @Lectronimo ) They never give me a change to say bye.
| 22:41.08 | ( @SOLIDx ) you're just too slow
| 22:41.47 | ( @Revolution )
| 22:42.20 | ( @Lectronimo ) Mmm could be..
| 22:42.35 | ( @Revolution ) hey, i didn't even realize kvangelo was here
| 22:42.37 | ( @Lectronimo ) I was reading the complaint thread, when Vortex suddenly left.
| 22:42.39 | )) @Revolution waves to kvangelo
| 22:44.01 | ( @BlueFusion ) ok
| 22:44.04 | ( @BlueFusion ) so >_>
| 22:44.09 | ( @BlueFusion ) any other questions?
| 22:44.31 | ( @Heather ) Whew. Sorry I'm late. Had a heck of a day at work...
| 22:44.34 | ( Embai ) when is the military tutorial going to be?
| 22:45.14 | ( @BlueFusion ) We're doing an Alliance training and basic military next week
| 22:45.24 | ( @BlueFusion ) There is currently no set date, it will be announced on the community boards though
| 22:45.28 | ( +kvangelo ) hi revolution
| 22:46.07 | ( Embai ) Ok, i'll keep my fingers crossed that i don't get attacked until then.
| 22:46.39 | ( +Aeisharat|Zarroc| ) you should be alright, just keep your port at level 1, and have a few troops
| 22:46.52 | ( +Aeisharat|Zarroc| ) players look for easy targets, even a little military will deter them
| 22:46.54 | ( Embai ) ok
| 22:47.06 | ( +Aeisharat|Zarroc| ) have a few slingers, couple of ships, you should be OK
| 22:53.52 | ( @marko_tmc ) any more questions?
| 22:54.04 | ( Meldrew ) when should you start thinking about joining an alliance?
| 22:54.29 | ( @marko_tmc ) well I have an allinace
| 22:54.30 | ( @marko_tmc ) <_>
| 22:54.41 | ( @marko_tmc ) but if you mean on the start of the game
| 22:54.41 | ( +Zarroc ) As soon as you have yourself sorted with a embassy pretty much
| 22:54.44 | ( +Zarroc ) what server you on?
| 22:54.48 | ( Meldrew ) zeta
| 22:54.50 | ( +kvangelo ) what server are you on?
| 22:54.52 | ( +kvangelo ) lol
| 22:55.01 | ( @marko_tmc ) allinace is a big part of the game expecially with the new update that is comming
| 22:55.21 | ( +Zarroc ) best thing to do is head to the Zeta forum board and PM the leaders of one of the alliances in the intro thread
| 22:55.33 | ( +Zarroc ) find one that seems to be nice, ask how you join
| 22:55.49 | ( +kvangelo ) did you research foreign cultures yet?
| 22:55.54 | ( Meldrew ) yeah
| 22:56.07 | ( Meldrew ) wouldn't it be better though if you join an alliance close to you?
| 22:56.26 | ( +Zarroc ) most of the larger ones span across entire worlds, but obviously yes, closer is better
| 22:56.29 | ( +kvangelo ) have you got an embassy?
| 22:56.34 | ( Meldrew ) yep
| 22:56.40 | ( Meldrew ) level 3
| 22:56.43 | ( +kvangelo ) ok
| 22:57.05 | ( Meldrew ) i actually was invited to join INDY
| 22:57.10 | ( +kvangelo ) look around your islands and check others players alliances
| 22:57.15 | ( Meldrew ) but I told them I wasn't sure about joining an alliance yet
| 22:57.26 | ( Meldrew ) yeah they have a lot of people in the area too
| 22:57.36 | ( Meldrew ) maybe I should just accept their offer
| 22:57.53 | ( +Zarroc ) talk to the leader, they should tell you about their alliance, whats what
| 22:58.07 | ( +kvangelo ) check it out first
| 22:58.10 | ( Meldrew ) ok
| 22:58.30 | ( +kvangelo ) see on the board like zarroc said if they have posted an intro
| 22:59.25 | ( Meldrew ) yeah they haven't it seems
| 23:00.09 | ( +kvangelo ) http://board.ikariam.org/index.php?page=Thread&postID=206058&highlight=indy#post206058
| 23:00.52 | ( Meldrew ) oh there
| 23:01.24 | ( +Zarroc ) right, I'm bidding all goodnight, I'm off to shoot some digital soldiers on CoD4
| 23:01.44 | ( Tina1170 ) how do other players know how new i am and how can i see how many troups others have?
| 23:01.57 | ( +kvangelo ) @tina
| 23:02.12 | ( +kvangelo ) in the highscore you can get a good idea
| 23:02.45 | ( +kvangelo ) you can type a players name and the score gives an indication overall
| 23:03.07 | ( +kvangelo ) you can see a drop-down, where you can select generals score
| 23:03.21 | ( +kvangelo ) that gives an indication on military strength
| 23:04.37 | ( Tina1170 ) i have 7 pts there ... means i am fast food?
| 23:04.51 | ( +kvangelo ) mcDonalds
| 23:05.00 | ( +kvangelo ) :-)
| 23:05.46 | ( +kvangelo ) It means you don't have much soldiers yet
| 23:06.19 | ( @Revolution ) Tina1170, even though you may not have a large army, a player won't attack you unless it would be beneficial
| 23:06.28 | ( @Revolution ) at least, that's the logical answer
| 23:06.34 | ( Tina1170 ) i am not that tasty ;o)
| 23:06.52 | ( @Revolution ) if you have a high level trading port, and lots of materials, someone would want to attack you
| 23:07.06 | ( @Revolution ) if you have a high level town hall and lots of gold, someone would want to attack you
| 23:07.34 | ( @Revolution ) there will come a time when you get more advanced when you'll want to have a decent army, at least for defense
| 23:07.55 | ( +kvangelo ) Even without a noob protection, you are not beneficial for attack yet
| 23:07.56 | ( @Revolution ) but for starting players, if you don't make yourself a tasty target, you should be ok without a large army
| 23:08.51 | ( Tina1170 ) so there is no way in this game of just beeing nice, trading and not getting attacked
| 23:08.58 | ( Tina1170 ) sooner or later someone will come?
| 23:09.52 | ( @Revolution ) eh, i suppose it's always safer to assume you could be attacked
| 23:09.54 | ( +kvangelo ) don't have to
| 23:10.12 | ( @Revolution ) but to be honest, i rarely ever got attacked when I started playing, even before I had a decent sized army
| 23:10.28 | ( +kvangelo ) Join an alliance, let them fight and you keep being nice
| 23:10.34 | ( +kvangelo ) that's what I do too
| 23:10.40 | ( Tina1170 ) )
| 23:10.52 | ( @Revolution ) power in numbers
| 23:11.23 | ( +kvangelo ) But I do have an army to be protected, just in case. But I started getting it after having 60k points.
| 23:12.00 | ( @Revolution ) having a high level wall is a great way to boost your defense
| 23:12.13 | ( +kvangelo ) I am fortunate the numbers are big in my alliance lol
| 23:12.26 | ( @Revolution ) if you build phalanx, and have a good wall, your defense will skyrocket
| 23:13.12 | ( +kvangelo ) have a few spies too. They give a defense boost too
| 23:14.14 | ( @Revolution ) yeah, they're inexpensive and very effective on defense
| 23:14.20 | ( @Revolution ) i have a spy defense of 95%
| 23:14.25 | ( @Revolution ) nobody is getting into my town
| 23:14.43 | ( +kvangelo ) Does anyone try too?
| 23:14.47 | ( @Revolution ) lol nah
| 23:15.05 | ( @Revolution ) tbh, even if someone's army si stronger than mine, they don't like risking charging into the unknown
| 23:15.13 | ( @Revolution ) so they jsut leave me alone
| 23:15.38 | ( +kvangelo ) Same here. If they see the alliance tag, they're even scared to send a message
| 23:16.04 | ( +kvangelo ) or a cultural exchange
| 23:17.19 | ( Tina1170 ) can i be attacked when i am not online?
| 23:17.48 | ( +kvangelo ) yes
| 23:18.29 | ( +kvangelo ) the game goes on 24/24, 7/7
| 23:21.21 | ( +kvangelo ) *xx
| 23:21.40 | ( @marko_tmc ) yes
| 23:21.47 | ( @marko_tmc ) they never shut it down
| 23:22.15 | ( +kvangelo ) don't bother, just put something on my keyboard
| 23:22.23 | ( @marko_tmc ) lulz
| 23:22.23 | ( +kvangelo ) sorry
| 23:23.47 | ( @Revolution ) hey marko_tmc
| 23:23.56 | ( @Revolution ) is there a published list of keyboard shortcuts for Ikariam?
| 23:24.28 | ( @marko_tmc ) there are keyboard shortcuts in ikariam Oo
| 23:24.49 | ( @marko_tmc ) I know that OGame has those
| 23:24.49 | ( @Revolution ) i click a town on the island overview then click Ctrl + T
| 23:24.52 | ( @Revolution ) goes to the transport page
| 23:25.15 | ( @marko_tmc ) no
| 23:25.20 | ( @marko_tmc ) that openes a new tab for me
| 23:25.20 | ( @marko_tmc ) xD
| 23:25.34 | ( @Revolution ) that's what I tried to go
| 23:25.35 | ( @Revolution ) do
| 23:25.36 | ( @Revolution ) open a tab
| 23:25.54 | ( @marko_tmc ) so I click on a town on the island
| 23:25.57 | ( @marko_tmc ) and open a tab
| 23:26.09 | ( @marko_tmc ) nop doens't work
| 23:26.23 | ( @Revolution ) yeah it's weird
| 23:26.26 | ( @Revolution ) cause I tried to open a tab
| 23:26.32 | ( @Revolution ) but it took me to the transport page
| 23:26.35 | ( @Revolution ) multiple times O-o
| 23:32.32 | ( +kvangelo ) Will this training channel stay open, or will it be closed untill the next session?
| 23:34.14 | ( @BlueFusion ) it'll be closed again until the next session, to prevent idling
| 23:34.46 | ( +kvangelo ) OK
| 23:36.01 | ( @marko_tmc ) any more questions
| 23:36.02 | ( @marko_tmc )
| 23:36.08 | ( +kvangelo ) BTW : congrats with this. Was a great idea and I think a success for the 1st time
| 23:36.16 | ( @marko_tmc )
| 23:36.25 | ( Tina1170 ) it was the first time?
| 23:36.30 | ( +kvangelo ) yes
| 23:36.39 | ( @Revolution ) spread the word
| 23:36.49 | ( Tina1170 ) cool - lucky me
| 23:36.55 | ( +kvangelo ) I will now.
| 23:37.05 | ( +kvangelo ) Wanted to see it first
| 23:38.43 | ( +kvangelo ) I'm going to sign off for today, but count me in for the ones too come. I'll be here if times and dates let me.
| 23:38.57 | ( Tina1170 ) where can i find one of you if there is no training and i have questions?
| 23:39.15 | ( +kvangelo ) You can always pm me.
| 23:39.23 | ( @Revolution ) Tina, the forum has a Help & Questions section full of knowledgeable users
| 23:39.40 | ( @Revolution ) you can also PM me if you ever have one
| 23:40.21 | ( Tina1170 ) ok ppl - thanks 1000 times
| 23:40.25 | ( Tina1170 ) pm you soon )
| 23:40.26 | ( @BlueFusion ) Our normal channel Tina1170
| 23:40.28 | ( @BlueFusion ) #ikariam.org
| 23:40.31 | ( @BlueFusion ) its the main channel
| 23:40.38 | ( @BlueFusion ) !mode +pi
| 23:41.14 | ( @BlueFusion ) marko_tmc, can you change the board chat thing back >_>
| 23:41.26 | ( @marko_tmc ) done it 30 mins ago
| 23:41.33 | ( @BlueFusion ) bish
| 23:41.34 | ( @BlueFusion )
| 23:41.46 | ( @Revolution ) ^ fail
| 23:44.44 | ( @BlueFusion ) !topic Session Over >_>
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